Jun 18, 2016

 

Jun 18, 2016

I´ll be honest, back in the days when the album dropped I was disappointed, I dont know why, probably because of the name and the memories and nostalgia it caused thinking about the first LP.
I only liked a few tracks.
But d---, it really grew on me, last weeks ive been revisting the album all over again, and there are so many GREAT tracks,

Bad Guy
So Much Better
Legacy
Berzerk
Rap God
Brainless
So Far
Headlights
Evil Twin
Baby
Groundhog Day
Beautiful Pain
Wicked Ways

basically my fealings towards the album have changed completely compared to 2013 when it was released. Prolly nobody of you guys will care but I just wanted to share my opinion with you.

Somebody else got the fealing the album grew with the years?

For me it´s his third best album after MMLP1 and TES period.

 

Jun 18, 2016

Evil Twin is f---ing incredible.

'f--- top 5, b---- I'm top 4, and that includes Biggie and Pac, whor-, and I got an Evil Twin so who d'ya think that 3rd n that 4th spots for?'

 

Jun 21, 2016

Exactly. I don't think he's as wack as everyone on here makes him out to be. He's a pretty solid MC, that gets nitpicked to death on here. But, at the same time, he gets praised beyond what he is, at this point.

Like I see people slam the song Legacy, but aside from the 3rd verse, it was a real good song. Same thing when people slammed "Airplanes" for the "alien" line, I thought it was a real good verse.

But, if someone starts saying "Legacy> Brain Damage" or "Airplanes verse > Watch Dees" I'll nitpick the f--- out of those songs/verses.

 

Jun 19, 2016

Bad Guy's last verse is greater than entire Stan song

 

Jun 19, 2016

What the actual f--- are you talking about? His very first f---ing project post hiatus was relapse, which was a concept album . He already took that risk, and he won a bunch of awards for the creativity (including a grammy).

Again, what the f--- are you on about? Do you think autotune is natural? , and then what the f--- does any of that have to do with execution. The fact that you don't like the style is nothing to do with the quality of execution.

first off, the pun made sense, He's 'Talking s---' and he's 'backing it up'
I know this might be a little over your head, but he also create's an organic imagery of something building up , which ties to the symbolism of his own career slowly driving him into the ground. Has alot more depth than thugger's airhead line anyway.
Second if you think the verse started off with that pun, then you need to improve your listening skills. It was a one off punchline that served its purpose , and was a good 25 seconds into the verse. So if that's the first thing you picked up, it says something.

 

Jun 19, 2016

Just because it's pre hiatus Eminem doesn't mean s---. Stan as a whole is a completely better song but I prefer the last verse of bad guy over it. I'd rather hear some real s--- instead of some dude obsessing over another guy.

 

Jun 18, 2016

How can you leave Rhyme or Reason off that list?! It's one of the albums best, love his flow on that track!
But yeah it's a great Album IMHO

 

Jun 22, 2016

Yes... For instance.

A conceptual song would be something that is written from a different perspective. For example..

Nas' I Gave U Power is Nas rapping as a gun. It's a conceptual song. Or the song Rewind, is a song where Nas is telling a story backwards, so it's a conceptual song. The song Fetus is Nas rapping as an unborn child inside of his mother's stomach, therefore it's a conceptual song.

However, the song "Dance" is a theme based song. It sticks to a theme, it's not conceptually written, because he's simply writing about his appreciation for his mother.

Themes are basically topics of discussion.

 

Jun 18, 2016

Bad Guy > Stan

 

Jun 21, 2016

I liked Brainless a lot. Solid flow all the way through, pretty natural, solid lyrics. The only time where his flow really breaks is at the end of the third verse, but I liked it.

Evil Twin, same thing. I liked the song for the most part. Some really lame lines like the "Forgetting Sarah Marshall (PALIN!). I didn't like the whole "LMFAO" part at the end of the second verse, but otherwise, it's a solid song. There's definitely some bright spots though. I just wish he edited out most of the lame lines that he uses, but a lot of rappers don't, so I can't really fault him too much on it.

 

Jun 21, 2016

Now I'm reminded why I hate debating with Eminem fans. Christ... They make up any excuse to defend him.

I have no bias against Eminem. I don't hate on the dude for no reason. When he makes a great song, I praise it. When he makes s--- music, I trash it.

I know there's a lot of posters who trash everything he makes, but I don't.

I actually LIKE Bad Guy. I just don't think it's as good as Stan lol. I don't nitpick it until someone says something as stupid as saying "Bad Guy > Stan". Then I'll bring up little things I hate about the song. Otherwise, it's a great post-hiatus song by Eminem.

On Headlights, I don't care what his purpose was for having a fast flow, then stopping all of a sudden. It sounds sloppy. Any other rapper would get crucified for it, or get looked over. He sacrificed his flow for syllable patterns, which he does too much lately. It ruins the sound of his music.

If you start making excuses for things like this, you can basically make a case for any random rapper to flow awful. I criticized rappers like Immortal Technique for the same s---, he'll ramble on and his song will SOUND bad because he doesn't ride the beat well, even if his lyrics are great.

Do I like Headlights? Yeah, it was a strong song. But it's not better than Cleaning out my Closet, or even My Mom.

Want a great example of an amazing flow by Eminem?



He rides this beat perfect, he has great cadence and natural energy. There is nothing forced about this verse or flow. It sounds natural.

God, do you guys know what a conceptual album is? You guys are talking about themes or tones, not concepts.

Listen to Black Trash by Sticky Fingaz. THAT'S a conceptual album. It's played out like a movie, with skits in between each song, and each song has a concept that follows the story he's telling. He never breaks the concept that he built. It's rolled out like a movie.

Listen to ATLiens, which has a re-occuring theme. It tells various stories, but always ties in to Outkast feeling like an Outcast, an alien from pop culture.

Conceptual albums are RARE, because they're extremely hard to pull off. That's why it's insulting that you guys call Relapse a conceptual album. It's flat out NOT.

Conceptual songs are: Guilty Conscience (Eminem), Damien or the Convo (DMX), 24 Hours to Live (Mase), Rewind, I gave U power (Nas), State vs Kirk Jones or Money Talks (Sticky Fingaz), Me and My Girlfriend (2Pac), Put You on Game (Lupe), I Used To Love H.E.R (Common). Just some examples.

Stop trying to redefine aspects of hip hop to fit your argument for Eminem.

 

Jun 19, 2016

Thug is s--- and so do his fans are not well exposed to understand lyrical masterpieces. They just understand the n word and em never used and probably will never use.

 

Jun 19, 2016

Stan has a deep story and a twist... cool bro I haven't listened to it over 5 times. Bad Guys beat alone has made me listen to it like 20 times

 

Jun 18, 2016

The album was great, a few songs like survival, monster and bezerker for example didn't do to well for i guess most people. and if you promote a album with s-----y singles you get less respect then the album recovery had.
the mmlp 2 was much better through, in my opinion.

 

Jun 18, 2016

Yeah lyrically trash but the energy and aggression was pretty dope imo I'm not even an Em stan

 

Jun 18, 2016

This is his worst album to date.

 

Jun 18, 2016

It is , I also forgot "a------" although many people dont like it, I do.

 

Jun 18, 2016

Its great, as good as MMLP1 imo