Jun 22, 2016

lol dude calls me an idiot, but doesn't even know basic definitions.

Relapse is a theme based album, that revolves around serial killing and drug addiction. It is NOT a conceptual album.

It's such an insult to rappers who have made conceptual albums.

If themes = concepts, then almost ANY album can be labeled a concept album.

The only thing conceptual about Relapse is the album cover's artwork. That's about it.

 

Jun 22, 2016

Hearing aids are pretty cheap these days and should be covered by your parent's insurance

 

Jun 22, 2016

Definition[edit]
There is no clear definition of what constitutes a concept album. Fiona Sturges of The Independent stated that the concept album "was originally defined as a long-player where the songs were based on one dramatic idea – but the term is subjective."[2] A precursor to this type of album can be found in the 19th century song cycle.[3]

AllMusic writes, "A concept album could be a collection of songs by an individual songwriter or a particular theme -- these are the concept LPs that reigned in the '50s ... the phrase 'concept album' is inextricably tied to the late 1960s, when rock & rollers began stretching the limits of their art form."[4] Author Jim Cullen describes it: "a collection of discrete but thematically unified songs whose whole is greater than the sum of its parts ... sometimes [erroneously] assumed to be a product of the rock era."[5] Author Roy Shuker defines concept albums and rock operas as albums that are "unified by a theme, which can be instrumental, compositional, narrative, or lyrical. ... In this form, the album changed from a collection of heterogeneous songs into a narrative work with a single theme, in which individual songs segue into one another."[6]

AS i said, the theme of relapse is the return of the charater slim shady after the relapse, and like the old slim shady represents an accumulation of woe's creating an anti-social persona this time caused by the drug addiction.

The only thing is that it lacks the sslp creativity in some of the tracks, and the accent (which was intended to highlight a character) was not needed.


It's still a concept album you

 

Jun 22, 2016

So basically everything is a concept album lmao.

 

Jun 22, 2016

MMLP2 - concept album or not, it's still hot trash

 

Jun 22, 2016

we were talking about relapse though
thought you liked relapse

 

Jun 22, 2016

yeah it's alright, it's still hot trash though

 

Jun 22, 2016

Maybe, but by the stricter definitions of concept album, relapse still makes the cut, even if you think it sucks
Now hold this L

 

Jun 22, 2016

People are seriously calling Relapse a concept album?

 

Jun 22, 2016

If Relapse is a concept album, it sucks as a concept album, making it an even worse album than I previously thought.

But, it's still not a concept album.

You can literally call ANY album a concept album then, by your definition.

You could call the Eminem Show a concept album because it's "about his personal life"

You can call Illmatic a conceptual album because Nas is telling a story from the perspective of the NY streets.

You can call 2Pac's Me Against The World a conceptual album because sometimes he raps about how it's him against the world and he's rebelling.

Literally ANYTHING can be a conceptual album then.

But, that's not how it goes.

It's a theme based album. Going by the definitions of "concept" and "theme", which I already provided.

Only an Eminem stan would consider Relapse a f---ing conceptual album.

 

Jun 22, 2016

Right? lol.

 

Jun 22, 2016

Neck in neck with relapse for worst album

 

Jun 22, 2016

Encore is easily his worst album. Album is a f---ing embarrassment to hip hop, and I don't understand everyone's newfound love for it.

I'd pick anything post-hiatus over that piece of s--- album.

Everyone claims there's gems on it, but there really isn't. The best songs on Encore are like B average songs at best. Mixed with a bunch of zeroes.

At least Relapse had flashes of brilliance, like My Mom and Deja Vu, and MMLP2 was consistently average, aside from Survival.

 

Jun 22, 2016

Theme based?

 

Jun 22, 2016

It took time for me to come to this opinion, but Encore is better than Relapse and MMLP2. Recovery is probably better, but those other two would be hard to get through in 2016

 

Jun 22, 2016

I've been saying this for so long, I'm glad someone agrees.
The album is so bad that the few good songs get overrated to make up for the other tracks.

Had someone on Youtube say the album was great by "hip hop standards" lol

 

Jun 22, 2016

Yes... For instance.

A conceptual song would be something that is written from a different perspective. For example..

Nas' I Gave U Power is Nas rapping as a gun. It's a conceptual song. Or the song Rewind, is a song where Nas is telling a story backwards, so it's a conceptual song. The song Fetus is Nas rapping as an unborn child inside of his mother's stomach, therefore it's a conceptual song.

However, the song "Dance" is a theme based song. It sticks to a theme, it's not conceptually written, because he's simply writing about his appreciation for his mother.

Themes are basically topics of discussion.

 

Jun 22, 2016

If you guys listen to Black Trash or ATLiens, then Relapse, you'll see what a joke it is to call Relapse a conceptual album.

Black Trash is laid out like a movie. Every song is STRONGLY connected to one another. He has skits in between each song to develop a story, but not only that, but he has a few conceptually written songs. There is cohesion throughout the entire project.

Relapse's only cohesion was the first 4 tracks (Dr. West, 3AM, My Mom and Insane). Then it goes off the rails. There is no narrative once he reaches Bagpipes of Bagdad or Hello.

Or We Made You, or Medicine Ball, or Old Times Sake, or Crack a Bottle, or Underground.

 

Jun 22, 2016

Relapse is an immature adult, recovering from a drug problem, recording what he thinks is good songs to restart his career. It is not a concept album and was not made that way on purpose.

 

Jan 25, 2017

His flow here:

Cause baby, stable mentally I ain't
I need my meds, I peed my bed
I'm going blind, I don't see my legs
I keep on falling down, no wonder you can't stand me, I need my cane
Someone help me, I think my face is melting
If you felt these migraines and see these maggots eat my brain
This G-I-A-N-T hole in my empty head
If you read my mind, you can see my pain
And you'd see why I be this way
Ever since I was knee high playin' with G.I. Joes
Told these hoes shut their P-I-E holes, now peep my game
Cause I'm 'bout it 'bout it



I don't see how people don't think this album is a classic (If we ignore STIW)